January 4, 2025
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Harriet Haynes

Hi Curly Tea, first of all thanks for all the amazing information you have on your blog and website. l am starting my own Natural hair and skin care line by formulating from home. The first product I want to create is a curl defining gel that will help define curls with slip and hold. Something close to ecostyler gel consistency and performance.What are your thought on using flax seed, Slippery Elm back, mashmellow root xantum gum and Guar gum. Please let me know if these product can all be incorporated into the recipe or better still if some will not work well with others. Your thoughts .

Thanks

curlyteaconsult

Hi there! Thank you for the complements. 😀

Flaxseed gel: From what I know, it’s a real challenge to keep flaxseed gel prepared in the traditional way from going bad — even using a preservative. I assume that’s why it’s not used in it’s pure form in more over-the-counter products.

Marshmallow Root/Slippery Elm: I have a recipe using these two ingredients in a gel. (You have to be a Subscriber to access the full recipe though.) If you’re going to use these two as a base for a gel make sure you use a broad-spectrum preservative to keep them from going bad:
https://www.curlytea.com/0823/marshmallow-root-curling-gel.html

Guar gum: Since writing the post above, and with more testing of guar gum, I’ve become a little put off by it. In it’s regular form, it’s very finicky to work with. If you use a tad bit too much, it can cause massive flaking in the hair. If you use it by itself as part of a non-oily gel, it can cause massive flaking in the hair. Using it with enough oils to combat that outcome seems to work, but I’m still super-cautious. If you need traditional “slip” in a gel product, I’d suggest using xanthan gum if you have to pick between the two.

There’s another ingredient I’m still testing which I used in the Marshmallow Root Curling gel. However, it’s definitely not a natural ingredient so I don’t want to fully recommend it for what you may be trying to create.

Just a sidenote: If you want some superior detangling, try adding a conditioning ingredient called Varisoft EQ 65. However, you product won’t be an ecostyler gel-type consistency anymore. But VarisoftEQ 65 is an ECOCert and COSMOS approved “green” ingredient which is supposed to be better at detangling than CETAC and BTMS. I’ve only tried it in one of my rinse-off conditioner recipes but I’m impressed:
https://www.curlytea.com/0902/varisoft-eq-65.html

Good luck with your new line! It’s going to be exciting and challenging, but you can do it! 😀

Harriet Haynes

hi dear,
thanks for your detailed feed back. very appreciated. Also I am a subscriber and thanks for your encouragement. means a lot. which preservative and emulsifier is considered natural ?
thanks

curlyteaconsult

No problem. 😀

“Green” preservatives: Some green preservatives may not be broad-spectrum preservatives. I would seriously suggest using a broad-spectrum preservative that doesn’t contain parabens even though it’ may not be ECOCert approved.

1. Gluconolactone & Sodium Benzoate (GSB) (aka Neodefend);
2. Leucidal Liquid;
3. Leucidal Liquid SF;
4. NataPres

“Green” ECOCert approved emulsifiers and co-emulsifiers:

1. EcoMulse (aka Natramulse);
2. SugarMulse;
3. Varisoft EQ 65;
4. EmulSoft;
5. Glyceryl Stearate (GMS)

Harriet Haynes

Thanks for the suggestions . great help. I ordered phynoxy erthernol and I guess I will not be using that.also where can I purchase natures silk. thanks.

Uche

Wow! This is just what I needed and have been looking for for quite a while now! Thank you for sharing your knowledge Curlytea. I do appreciate when folks give of themselves and I say a big THANK YOU!
I’m trying to start up my hair care line and really do need pointers. I’ll join your community but wanted to post here as my question is about the guar gum
I’m looking at making a coconut milk leave in conditioning hair spray and already purchased guar gum as a thickener(so my formulation isn’t completely runny)
Using a very little quantity of the guar gum with about 120g coconut milk, 400mls water, 10g honey, 10g vegetable glycerin, some carrier oils, essential oils and liquid germall… do you think it would work?
What I mean is, I would love to know that the above mixtures can be well-binded by the guar gum(that is keeping the oil and water together without it separating after a long period- say 3 months)
Please do reply

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