Hi guys! I always want to experiment on different formulas, but what formulas do you guys want to see in the future? I like to experiment with everything except sunscreens and “whitening creams” (for obvious reasons). Let me know what y’all are looking for and I’ll try to integrate them! π
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HI! I would like to see you create a formula for a curling hair mousse.
Mousse can be tricky. I’ll try though. Thanks!
Sprays. As a highly porous natural, a foundational recipe we could change up the featured herbs/teas/ayurveda would be nice. I have been at the mercy of also figuring out a spray bottle that will mist something properly that’s any thicker than water, or even just a tea ugh. Products/consistencies that come to mind are Alikay Naturals Lemongrass Leave In, Shea Moisture Coconut Leave In, As I am CocoShea Spray (this one is more like water). Not Your Mother’s also has a couple curly hair kids sprays that are more like water but the ingredients have good moisture impact for being so thin!
Well, you know I have a watermelon based conditioning spray (Watermelon Hydro Spray – https://www.curlytea.com/1206/watermelon-hydro-spray-vid.html) that you can load up with teas and extracts if you want to. π
Ya know, I was looking at that earlier but I’m cone free and wasn’t having any luck with relevant substitutions for all the other stuff either so it was going to end up a mess. I have hundreds of ingredients from Making Cosmetics, Ingredients to Die For, Lotioncrafter, etc but basically none of these newer featured ingredients so I was hopeful for some additional formula varieties to achieve similar results, if it exists of course, before spending another milli to add to the hoard lol
I understand. I can’t do no-cones anymore. My hair is way too high porosity and full of color (lol!) for no-cones. But you can try this: skip the PEG-12 Dimethicone in that formula and add 2% Triethylhexanoin into PHASE C with the solubilizer.
If you don’t want to use a solubilizer, you can use lotionpro 165 in PHASE B, but you’ll have to heat PHASE A and B and add the extracts, conditioner and hydrolyzed proteins during Cool Down.
I use lotion pro 165 in my sprays. Itβs is the only ingredient I have found that keeps the spray together without thickening
Most everyone in my home has high porosity hair and I find that sprays that have oils in them work great and would love try a recipe with those ingredients in them. That Mizani 25 in 1 for 3 people be hurting my pockets. π€
Hi! Are you talking about the Mizani Miracle Milk? π€
Yes thatβs the one which like $26 on Amazon π.
The big companies can get their hands on superior versions of ingredients that sometimes smaller creators can’t get. I’m just spitballing rn based on the ingredients list:
It looks like you can get in the ballpark with Lotionpro 165 and a small percentage of BTMS-50. Most ppl have BTMS at home, not Behentrimonium Chloride. (To my understanding, they’re kinda different ingredients bc of the whole chloride vs methosulfate thing lol).
I’d switch out the Coconut oil with a different oil. Some ppl can’t stand coconut oil in their hair for whatever reason.
The guarCAT is fine too. Most ppl recommend around 0.2% of that.
I’d want it as liquidly as possible, so I’d skip the Cetearyl Alcohol…. unless the cetearyl is in there at a super low percentage; like 1% or less. But Cetearyl contributes to lamellar structure in emulsions which helps stabilize the mix. I’d add no more than 1% though because I want the viscosity to stay liquidy. HOWEVER, since the cousin Cetyl is already in BTMS-50, I’d skip Cetearyl alcohol.
Cetrimonium Chloride can cause irritation and is often recommended in the smallest amount (like 0.25%) for leave-in products, so I’d use another liquid conditioning agent or try to skip it. The only problem is that centrimonium chloride feels luxurious in the hair and is a superior detangling agent.
Fumaric acid, i think, has something to do with helping fight alopecia, keeps the scalp healthy, and loosening build-up (??? Don’t quote me on that). It’s an acid so there’s a possibility it’s just in there to adjust the pH too. IDK.
Skip the Isopropyl alcohol completely. It may be in there to be a solvent or to keep it from “soaping” or something. But I’d skip that completely.
Linalool is in there for scent, but it’s also an allergen for some ppl. Skip that.
Ethylhexyl Salicylate… never heard of it. Looked it up and it’s a fragrance fixative (helps the scent linger longer).
Salicylic Acid, Benzyl alcohol, and sodium benzoate look like they’re in there as part of the preservation system of the product.
So, what I would do:
PHASE A
Distilled water (to 100%)
PHASE B
Glycerin (2%)
guarCAT (0.2%)
——–mix these two, then combine with PHASE A
PHASE C
Coconut oil (or some other hair loving oil) (3%-12%)
BTMS-50 (1.5 – 2%)
Lotionpro 165 (or Creammaker BLEND) (3%)
PHASE D
Cetrimonium Chloride (0.25%)**
Antimicro Root Blend (1%)*
Bamboo extract (5%)*
Hydrolyzed hemp protein (1%) *
Specialty oil (like Fennel seed) (1% or less) [for marketing]
(pomegranate oil, plum oil, cranberry oil, cucumber seed oil, etc)
Vitamin E T-50 (0.2%) *
Preservative(s) (0.8 – 1%)
Fragrance (around 1%)
*These are some curlytea.com additions I’d add if I were making it.π
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What may be doing a lot of the heavy-lifting, as far as how it feels in the hair, may be the cetrimonium chloride. That stuff feels amazing. But it is a little irritating even on my scalp at first. Just a little tingling I don’t care for then it’s gone. I only know 1 ingredient that comes close to the feel, but it’s a little difficult for regular DIYers to obtain.
Try Quaternium-31** instead (I’ve never used this one but its readily available at the time of this writing).
Thank Curlytea !!! I’m going to give your recipe a try because $26 for a leavein is not going to work me long term but I gave in because nothing worked for my previously low porosity family member.